trying to make rcs less of a snorefest.
not exactly award winning either, but worth a laugh.
kate xx.
This is not ballroom dancing. It is a step they do in clubs, but they've added their own little twist.
Where o' where did the society go? What on earth are they doing?
Is this what the Detroit Mormons are doing?
I hate to have to reread the magazines from early thiw year so I can quote it directly, but it goes in line with the new stuff they are telling the youth.
They are promoting the world. Too many young ones leaving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.
.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.
instead of preaching and saving people??.
Greatteacher-JWdom is practiced somewhat differently in different places. Honestly, that house did not shock me. Plenty of JWs in my parents hall have homes like this.
There wasn't any shock about it just the delusional picture they are trying to portray. This is not a reality for most jw's. You are correct; in the middle class neighborhood halls college is not frowned upon. They understand that their children need to be able to provide for themselves and support the congregation. They know their children won't be able to do that with a career at McDonalds.
My children's parents live in a home very similar to the ones picture on the advertisement too, but middle america is not the reality for most witnesses or their lifestyle. The point I was making is that those things can't be acquired working for minimum wage for the duration of one's life. I think it is very hypocritcal for them to show pictures of things unattainable with the map they design for people's futures.
In my opiinion.
apognophos-I come on here and see a lot of angst directed at JWs who have nice things
I live your statement; and don't be a single woman(or worse single mother) that was able to obtain those things without doing it their way, but still have a strong love for GOD.
Double and triple frowned on by the Elders at certain halls.
On another note, the faithful are still being ripped of because now they won't even get to earn SAG wages for their performances.
nonjwspouse- I would find it hard to see how a "spiritually strong JW that will spend plenty of time at the KH", and the wife not work could afford this level of a home.
Thanks for driving my point home.
@magnum- well said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.
.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.
instead of preaching and saving people??.
They are a corporation. They are getting paid. There is an ulterior motive behind them promoting an entire city. People will stay just so they get their 5 minutes of fame. All of a sudden now they are being of the world. Posting peoples names and titles underneath their pictures. UGGGHHHH!
Hmm, I wonder how many non college, secular employed witnesses can afford beautiful homes in neighborhoods like the ones pictured?
When will Jehovah's anger blaze at his temple (organization) being a house of merchants?
i just got done with the first day of the rc!
freaking delusion!!
propaganda films a go-go!!
@datadog- HIP HIP HOORAY!!!
my dad told me this story long time ago.
there was an long time elder that is never married.
he got caught going to brothel one day after a brother followed him there.
hmmmm. So sad he didn't get to enjoy his BJ.
So sad. That story just took all the joy out of it for him. (shaking my head)
the guy is a fruit cake lol.
as i was researching things (once i knew the bible was man's word.. not gods) i stumbled on he jw versus born again conversation.
i was laughing through most of it.
It seems to me a jw would not have listened at all; nor listened to all those scriptures being read. Definitely would not have prayed.
In my opinion.
Just seems a bit add to me.
http://www.eqi.org/invalid.htm.
of course, being in a cult and the shunning that comes from leaving it is invalidating.. but how many times have we heard "move on" or "get over it"?
that is a prime example of invalidation.. sometimes this forum, as well as others, can be a mixed bag of validation and invalidation..
Great points wasanelder.
Happy people live in the present. Gingerbread than this present day is a very good day.
being 4th generation, i realize that am socially stunted, in regard to those that are not jws.
i am forging ahead and endeavoring to build a life outside of jw's.
i am trying as i can to socialize my child to make friends and be a normal kid.
We have a pool and my children have been swimming for about 7 years now. My youngest is 11. They always looked forward to having friends over and thus far we only had one incident where a child lied about their swimming abilities. Since the kid was old enough to be truthful about water I took their word. Long story short...I ended up giving swimming lessons that evening.
Now, unless they've been here before and already shown themselves as capable swimmers; THEY MUST BE ABLE TO SWIM THE FULL LENGTH OF OUR POOL AND BACK.
Our other pool rules which are ingrained in their skulls is:
1. Two people must be outside or inside the pool swimming at all times. NO LONE SWIMMERS
2. You must be able to hold your breath under water for atleast 30 seconds.
3. You must have floaties or a life jacket if you can't swim.
4. Absolutely no running around the pool deck.
5. No eating or drinking near the pool.
6. Everyone needs to bring their own towels and dry clothes. You'll be surprised at how many of the teenage boys will show up in just their trunks.
* TIP- if you live in an area that is susceptible to wind even when it's a million degrees outside then swim caps will go a long ways. Also, for the young ones as they tend to get cold quicker because the water can be a bit cold. It can be 120 degrees outside, but if that water is 70 or colder; that water will be cold and they won't stay in long.
Having said all that, the kids have a wonderful time. When we BBQ the parents don't have a problem keeping an eye on the younger swimmers if someone needs to run in the house. We've had more than 10 kids swimming at one time that were all decent swimmers (but, that's regulated by your comfort level). Everyone can't wait for swimming season to start at the end of Mar/early April.
It will be some great memories at any age. They really love to invite friends over and feel free. I don't mean to impose, but swim safety is a must.
Enjoy. Hope this helps.
new study out of the university of bc:.
http://news.ubc.ca/2014/05/29/better-to-be-bullied-than-ignored-in-the-workplace-study/.
we tend to underestimate the damage that social ostracism does.
steve-When you realize they have bolted the door firmly in your face and have made unmeetable demands before they'd even be prepared to think about unbolting it
This thought is all too true. Yes, resilience goes a long ways. They preach it, but don't teach how to bounce back because more than one tool is needed that's why it's so devestating when it happens. They aren't taught how to get their legs back underneath them at the hall. The Elders depend on just that to instill and be assured of the conformity in the repentent wrong doer.
It also depends on how the individual whose being ostracized views it.
For me: The threat of being disfellowshipped or disassociated didn't and doesn't phase me one bit. I took the mental stand that reflected my personality. "So what, you are not speaking to me; because most days I can assure you I didn't want you to speak to me either." In typing this it dawned on me that it read a bit cruel or forward. No offense is meant.
I just noticed that they gained all of their power at the hall by the way they treated the out crowd. Once you notice that, you take back their power. I started turning my back to them when they saw me or I saw them coming. I guess it is also just as effective in reverse, because they didn't like it one bit and would often times walk by me twice just to see if I really did what they thought I did. So, when they passed by the second time it confirmed my so called arrogance in turnining my back on them. None of it bothered me at all, but it seemed to annoy them dearly.
Ostracizing only works if you are defined by that which they are using for the grounds of the ostracizing. "In short, you need to know what defines you. "If you define yourself by what you have or the title you carry then you will feel worthless if you lose them. It may also keep you in a state of despair and anxiety out of fear of the threat of the loss. The danger of feeling worthless is you will always get somebody beneath you because their constant need of you makes you more valuable." The last part of that statement as well as Steve's snipet I quoted earlier sums up the Elders at the hall. They get power drunk making your life miserable instead of being kind and gentle.
Being a JW was a nice thing and I am surely committed to Jehovah. I just was no longer commited to the society as I was when I first got baptized and still wet behind the ears. The loyalty left when it was shown that their decisions were of man. Especially once I realized that they weren't making decisions soley in line with the bible and Jehovah's spirit; my embarkation to freedom began. It was at that point being a witness no longer defined who I was. There were far greater things that defined me that came under a larger umbrella than them.
Under the JW circumstances ostracism may be viewed more damaging than bullying, but I still conclude that ostracism IS bullying. They are both all aout power and control.
A change is gonna come
